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10 Post author: Metus 15 September 2014 09:17AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 15 September 2014 09:32:32PM 2 points [-]

Is that contrarian? In the community I come from (physics), that's a pretty commonly considered theory, even if not commonly held as most probable.

Comment author: shminux 15 September 2014 10:07:34PM *  7 points [-]

I'm an ex-physicist, and I am pretty sure that realism, and more specifically scientific realism, is the standard, if implicit, ontology in physics.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 17 September 2014 03:36:24PM *  2 points [-]

That depends on exactly what itis supposed to mean. Some people se it to mean that reality is not accessible outside an interpretational framework - that's a Bailey version. A Motte version would be that there is literally nothing in existence except human-made theories. Physicists often aren't good at stating or noticing degrees of realism and anti realism, since they aren't trained for it,

Comment author: [deleted] 17 September 2014 06:59:30PM 2 points [-]

I didn't interpret shminux's statement as being about realism. There is also the theory that as we move into higher and higher energy we will cover more and more and more specific rules and never reach the terminal fundamental rule set. in other words the fundamental rules of the universe are fractally complex with the fractal function being unknowable.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 18 September 2014 11:20:11AM 1 point [-]

Maybe. But Shminux also says that the territory is a map, not that it is unmappable.