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Comment author: DanielLC 15 September 2014 11:20:54PM 9 points [-]

"The territory" is just whatever exists. It may well be an infinite series of entities, each more refined than the last. It's still a territory.

If there is no territory, what is a map?

Comment author: shminux 15 September 2014 11:35:53PM *  2 points [-]

I don't normally call it a map, I call it a model, but whatever the name, it's something that turns observations into predictions of future observations, without claiming that the source of these observations is something called "reality". This can go as much meta as you like. The map-territory model is one such useful model, except when it's not.

Comment author: DanielLC 16 September 2014 12:05:36AM 1 point [-]

Are you saying that the universe is built like Solomonoff induction? It randomly produces observations and eliminates possibilities that don't follow them? I'd still consider that as having a territory, but it's certainly contrarian.

At the very least, your model if the universe implies the existence of a series of maps along a timeline.