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For example, nearly all of what they call "race privilege" is actually "intelligence privilege" or "conscientiousness privilege".
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I think you are just blind to these things.
I have highly accomplished female friends who tell me horrible stories. I have highly accomplished friends with black skin who tell me horrible stories.
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Can I have some more specifics.
Also note that in the parent I specifically referred to "race privilege", the situation with "female privilege" is more complicated.
So you're claiming that there is no way in which the US police and justice systems treat black people differently that isn't reducible to intelligence or conscientiousness differences?
More or less. Remember lower conscientiousness translates into higher propensity to commit violent crime.
There's also a certain amount of what may fairly be called "black privilege" due to the fact that in any highly publicized crime, or alleged crime, with white defendants and a black victim there will be social pressure to through the book at them regardless of lack of evidence, or mitigating circumstances like the victim beating the defendant's head on the pavement. And conversely if the defendants are black and the victim is white there will be social pressure to go light on the defendants some people even arguing that the victim brought the crime upon himself due to his racism. Something similar happens with police shootings. Shootings of blacks are more likely to make the national news and the victim described as an angelic youth even if he had just robbed a convince store and was charging for the officer's gun when he was shot.
All of your claims in this comment are factually incorrect.
Have you ever looked at statistics on shooting deaths? Accepting for the sake of argument that more shootings of black victims may show up on the news in an absolute sense (which I don't believe is actually true), it totally ignores the priors. If a white victim is shot, with high probability that will make the national news; if a black victim is shot, with an extremely high probability it will barely make local news and will receive no national attention. Ferguson wasn't unusual because a young black man shot; it was unusual that anyone paid any attention. Young black men being shot is far too commonplace to make the news under ordinary circumstances.
If you look at my previous sentence, you'll see I was referring to shootings by police. I agree, that young black men get shot all the time, mostly by other young black men, and nobody pays attention to that.
No, it is true for shooting deaths by police as well. Every time a white person is shot by a policeman, it's national news. When a black person gets shot by police, it's Tuesday.
It is not. Police shoot a lot of people and, funnily enough, no one knows exactly how many.
Are we living in the same universe?
Are you basically claiming that those black people who test highly on IQ tests don't get discriminated against?
Given things like Affirmative Action and all the pressure to have a "diverse workforce" they're mostly the beneficiaries of discrimination. There aren't many high IQ blacks and there's a lot of demand for them.