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Comment author: Azathoth123 17 September 2014 04:11:19AM 5 points [-]

Suppose everyone gets their sexual needs, if any satisfied by catgirls+ (+ for the upgrade which includes relationship problems if necessary). If you have a crush on your coworker (or your sibling, ew!), just add a catgirl copy of them to your harem.

This strikes me as superstimulating. In particular, the more cat girls you have, the more and kinkier cat girls you want.

Comment author: shminux 17 September 2014 04:22:04AM *  1 point [-]

Not necessarily, Plenty of people are happy with vanilla sex (or without). I suspect that even the kinkiest ones out there also have their limit. If not, let's talk about those who do.

Comment author: Azathoth123 17 September 2014 05:19:42AM 3 points [-]

That's because vanilla sex isn't as stimulating. The more superstimulating something is, the more experiencing it causes you to want more of it.

Comment author: Lumifer 17 September 2014 03:50:48PM *  2 points [-]

The more superstimulating something is, the more experiencing it causes you to want more of it.

That doesn't seem to be the case, see e.g. yummy food.

I think you're confusing "stimulating" and "addictive".

Comment author: gjm 19 September 2014 02:52:44PM 1 point [-]

vanilla sex isn't as stimulating

For people who are into one or another variety of kink, or would be if only they knew about it / were prepared to try it. I don't think it's obvious that that's everyone.

Comment author: shminux 17 September 2014 03:37:53PM 0 points [-]

That "explanation" is easily falsified. There are plenty of people who tried kinkier sex, enjoyed it, but reverted back to vanilla. There are plenty of people who tried roller-coasters once or twice but decided it's too much "stimulation".

Comment author: Azathoth123 19 September 2014 03:35:38AM 4 points [-]

There are plenty of people who tried kinkier sex, enjoyed it, but reverted back to vanilla.

Different people have different thresholds. If I remember the study correctly, none of the rats that tried directly stimulating their pleasure center ever went back.

Comment author: shminux 19 September 2014 05:51:53AM 1 point [-]

Rats != people...

Comment author: Azathoth123 19 September 2014 05:59:41AM 2 points [-]

Yes, well it would be unethical to repeat that experiment with people.

Comment author: Jodika 19 September 2014 09:29:30AM 2 points [-]

People, however, (as shminux said) do try kink all the time. It would not be unethical to do a study on people who are already kinky and see if they get kinkier over time.

Anecdotally, they start doing kink, they either decide it isn't for them and stop, or they do get kinkier for a while - because they're exploring what they like and it makes sense to start at the less extreme end of things.

Then they figure out what they like, which is often a range of things at differing levels of 'kinkiness/extremeness', and do that.

I mean, it's almost trivially obvious that compared to the size of the kink community, there is an almost negligible amount of people doing the human equivalent of directly stimulating their pleasure centres to the exclusion of everything else. They tend to make the news. The moderately kinky majority do not.

Comment author: Tripitaka 29 September 2014 10:05:01AM -1 points [-]

Well, there have been experiments on humans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasure_center#Human_experiments

At its most frequent, the patient self-stimulated throughout the day, neglecting personal hygiene and family commitments. >A chronic ulceration developed at the tip of the finger used to adjust the amplitude dial and she frequently tampered with >the device in an effort to increase the stimulation amplitude. At times, she implored her to limit her access to the >stimulator, each time demanding its return after a short hiatus. During the past two years, compulsive use has become >associated with frequent attacks of anxiety, depersonalization, periods of psychogenic polydipsia and virtually complete >inactivity.