Deaths in the US without quarantine to deaths in Cuba with quarantine.
How is this the relevant metric? I'm sure that if we banned scuba-diving, we could reduce the deaths from scuba-diving in this country by at least a factor of 35. That doesn't come close to an argument that scuba-diving should be banned. As long as you don't take seriously the hardship you are inflicting, you'll never be persuasive.
The project is obviously coercive: otherwise it won't work.
Did Ronald Coase die in vain? Voluntary quarantine is the obvious starting point. Pay or persuade sufferers to undergo quarantine. If you make a good-faith effort at that, and then think further efforts are needed, I might be sympathetic. And the same goes for testing. Instead, you leap immediately to massively coercive projects, now aimed not just at a small number of sufferers but the whole population. This seems like a clear case of the cure worse than the disease.
I think in order to draw a line we need to have cases that clearly fall on each side of the line. Do you think it was excessive to, say, imprison Typoid Mary for three decades?
I already gave cases on either side of the line; HIV and plague. Typhoid Mary was a case where the disease was highly contagious, and there were no reasonable steps for the rest of the population to avoid getting the disease. On the other hand, quarantine was lengthy. On balance, quarantine seems to have been the right thing there, although it would have been much better if they had taken her into voluntary quarantine.
I'm serious; one of the reasons I don't engage in casual sex with men is because I would have to trust his self-report of whether or not he has HIV (and almost half of the men with HIV don't know that they have it).
Right, now we're talking - what is the burden of the quarantine vs what is the burden of not having a quarantine. The burden of the quarantine is lifetime imprisonment for sufferers, the burden of not-quarantine is that you don't get to have consequence-free casual sex (or share needles). It's not a close call.
? I'm sure that if we banned scuba-diving, we could reduce the deaths from scuba-diving in this country by at least a factor of 35. That doesn't come close to an argument that scuba-diving should be banned.
Scuba-diving is dangerous to the diver only. HIV has a risk of transmission to others.
A post from Gregory Cochran's and Henry Harpending's excellent blog West Hunter.
The commenter Ron Pavellas adds:
The Wasserman Test.