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Comment author: Vaniver 02 October 2014 05:37:06PM 1 point [-]

The core issue is who has the power, who decides. You are thinking of an impersonal entity above all whose freedom to choose the "optimal" solution is unnecessarily constrained by individual rights. The alternative is devolve the power downwards and let different people come to different views and conclusions.

Sure. And we have technical tools that help us solve this problem, rather than just reasoning from moral principles. We can look at the structure of the problem and determine the optimal level of centralization for a particular variety of intervention, because problems are caused by mismatch of optimizer centralization and information centralization, and this can be both that the optimizer is too far up and that the optimizer is too far down.

Comment author: Lumifer 02 October 2014 05:44:47PM 2 points [-]

determine the optimal level of centralization for a particular variety of intervention

I don't see how you can get to the single "optimal level" without assuming a single underlying system of values. Optimality is a function of your evaluation of outcomes and your evaluation of outcomes is a function of your value system.

Who will determine that "optimal level" and what happens when there is significant disagreement about optimality?