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James_Miller comments on Rationality Quotes October 2014 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: James_Miller 02 October 2014 02:18:30PM *  7 points [-]

This is my interpretation, similar to a teacher saying he gave a great lecture that his students were not smart enough to understand.

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 October 2014 03:16:34PM 1 point [-]

Given German thought at the time I find that unlikely.

The author could have written: "We lost the war because Jews, Social Democrats and Communists backstepped us and not because we didn't have a good plan to fight two sides at once." He isn't that direct, but it's still the most reasonable reading for someone who writes that sentence in 1923 at a military academy in Germany.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 02 October 2014 06:47:22PM 1 point [-]

I don't think I said what I meant, which is that the quote is a good example of irrational thinking.

Comment author: Lumifer 02 October 2014 07:17:57PM 5 points [-]

ChristianKI's point is that this quote is a good example of coded language (aka dogwhistle) and while it looks irrational on the surface, it's likely that it means "That those plans failed was not due to any unsoundness on the part of the plans, but rather due to the fact that we were betrayed".

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 04 October 2014 01:25:44PM 2 points [-]

Or it could be read ironically. It would be hard for anyone to disagree with it without looking bad, allowing the writer to say what he really thought (as in Atheism Conquered)