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Comment author: [deleted] 16 October 2014 08:08:40PM *  18 points [-]

False belief: That in the U.S. the death penalty was cheaper than life in prison.

Believing this wasn't rational. I didn't take such basic steps as looking up the costs surrounding executions or life imprisonment. Executions get much more appeals, trials and legal attention.

False belief: That in the U.S. deaths by firearm are generally homicides, not suicides.

Believing this also wasn't rational. I didn't take such basic steps as looking up available death statistics.

Actually, looking through things potentially on the list for me, a lot of them seem to have the following general form:

1: Something is asserted.

2: I think: 'Yeah, that sounds plausible.'

3: I don't bother to look up any data about it, I just move myself to the believe column.

4: Later, someone else reports data about it.

5: I'm surprised that my earlier beliefs were wrong.

I've since became more skeptical of believing things based on just assertions, (I can even recall a recent instance where an assertion popped up on TV which my wife believed, but which I was skeptical of and which upon looking it up we found data didn't support it and that they were massively overstating their case)

But I can definitely recall beliefs that I have had in the past that were fundamentally just assertion based and the followed the above pattern.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 17 October 2014 02:42:18AM 4 points [-]

Believing this wasn't rational. I didn't take such basic steps as looking up the costs surrounding executions or life imprisonment.

Being ignorant of certain facts isn't being irrational.

Comment author: [deleted] 17 October 2014 04:03:38AM 4 points [-]
Comment author: [deleted] 17 October 2014 12:48:44PM 4 points [-]

Thinking about this comment reminds me of an important point.

I do have a smartphone in my pocket and I can look up that information in seconds, quicker than I can type this post.

I don't recall exactly when I shifted that belief, but I think it was before I had a smartphone, which means that looking it up would probably take at least minutes, instead of seconds, which may be coloring me thinking now 'I should have just looked up some facts.'

Regardless of the status of beliefs about facts about the U.S. death penalty in particular, I agree there exist certain facts that are worth seconds looking into, that aren't worth minutes looking into (or any other appropriate combination of time increments)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.