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Comment author: hyporational 17 October 2014 03:24:17AM *  4 points [-]

I was grossly mistaken in underestimating the corruptive influence of the concentrated power of the executive branch/national security apparatus on anyone who wields it.

Is it possible that the reason for change was secret information instead of corruption?

Comment author: ChristianKl 17 October 2014 12:01:27PM 5 points [-]

No.

I personally updated on the question the moment Obama got elected and choose his cabinet. If he would have wanted to change something he would have chose a cabinet of people who wanted change. He didn't.

Politics is about people. Making someone like Rahm Emanuel his chief of staff is a clear sign about his intentions.

Comment author: Lumifer 17 October 2014 03:52:05AM 0 points [-]

Secret information is the tool of corruption.

I don't remember from where the quote is, but "The best way to control somebody is to control his information channels". Especially given that once you're privy to secret information you tend to discount the opinions of others who do not have access to it.

Comment author: hyporational 17 October 2014 04:03:15AM *  2 points [-]

Secret information can explain the change whether it is true or false. We can only guess.

Is there a solution? Keep the president in the dark? Make classified security data public?

Comment author: Lumifer 17 October 2014 04:12:10AM *  0 points [-]

Is there a solution?

What exactly is the problem you want to solve?

Comment author: hyporational 17 October 2014 04:16:31AM 0 points [-]

Corruption. Am I being vague enough?

Comment author: Lumifer 17 October 2014 04:22:13AM *  0 points [-]

Heh. Let me be less vague. The problem is the capture and control of elected officials by the entrenched bureaucracy and associated interests. It's a well-known problem. I am not aware of good non-bloody solutions.

Of course there is also the universal "power corrupts" which doesn't help.

Comment author: Azathoth123 17 October 2014 05:00:38AM 2 points [-]

Secret information is the tool of corruption.

Just out of curiosity, you do realize the reason countries keep information related to national security secret?

Comment author: Lumifer 17 October 2014 03:42:23PM *  3 points [-]

Yes, of course, but the point is that there are costs (including non-obvious ones) to keeping a bunch of information secret.