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ruelian comments on Open thread, Oct. 20 - Oct. 26, 2014 - Less Wrong Discussion

9 Post author: MrMind 20 October 2014 08:12AM

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Comment author: ruelian 22 October 2014 10:32:08PM *  2 points [-]

When explaining/arguing for rationality with the non-rational types, I have to resort to non-rational arguments. This makes me feel vaguely dirty, but it's also the only way I know of to argue with people who don't necessarily value evidence in their decision making. Unsurprisingly, many of the rationalists I know are unenthused by these discussions and frequently avoid them because they're unpleasant. It follows that the first step is to stop avoiding arguments/discussions with people of alternate value systems, which is really just a good idea anyway.

Comment author: Lumifer 23 October 2014 01:24:58AM 4 points [-]

can we please call them Muggles or something?

Let's call them "people".

Comment author: ruelian 23 October 2014 01:52:50PM 1 point [-]

You're right, that was uncalled for and I retract that statement.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 October 2014 02:29:05AM 2 points [-]

can we please call them Muggles or something?

Cultivating a group identity and a feeling of superiority to the outgroup will definitely be conducive to clear-headed analysis of tactics/strategies for winning regardless of their origins/thedish affiliations/signals, and to evaluation of whether aspects of the LW memeplex are useful for winning.

Comment author: the-citizen 24 October 2014 12:16:16PM *  1 point [-]

Mudblood detected!!!

:-)

Seriously though, agree agree.