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Lumifer comments on In the grim darkness of the far future there is only war continued by other means - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 23 October 2014 03:04:17PM 5 points [-]

There must be unregulated PVP games with permadeath

They are usually called "war".

Otherwise I vaguely remember something about Russians selling tickets for a "cruise" during the peak of Somalian piracy. The cruise was on a ship full of small arms (up to bazookas and HMGs, I think) with some special-ops instructors and it cruised off the Horn of Africa with the hope of generating a run-in with the pirates.

Comment author: Vladimir_Golovin 28 October 2014 10:21:00AM *  1 point [-]

They are usually called "war".

Doh. Yes. How could I miss that? War is team PVP with permadeath, but I think we can call it a 'game' only when participation is voluntary, where players join as mercenaries, professional soldiers or militia, not as unwilling conscripts.

Comment author: Lumifer 28 October 2014 03:08:47PM 2 points [-]

Don't forget that "war" is wider than an armed conflict between governments. We can speak of a gang war, for example, which is also PvP with permadeath.

Comment author: Vladimir_Golovin 29 October 2014 06:01:33PM *  0 points [-]

Yes. Another example that comes to mind is conflict between rival groups of hardcore football / soccer ultras.