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7 Post author: Capla 30 October 2014 04:53PM

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Comment author: calef 31 October 2014 12:06:57AM 5 points [-]

You might be asking the wrong question. For example, the set of papers satisfying your first question:

What are the most important or personally influential academic papers you've ever read? (call this set A)

has almost no overlap with what I would consider the set of papers satisfying:

Which ones are essential (or just good) for an informed person to have read? (call this set B)

And this is for a couple of reasons. Scientific papers are written to communicate, "We have evidence of a result--here is our evidence, here is our result." with fairly minimal grounding of where that result stands within the broader scientific literature. Yes, there's an introduction section usually filled with a bunch of citations, and yes there's a conclusion section, but papers are (at least in my field) usually directed at people that are already experts in what the paper is being written about (unless that paper is a review article).

And this is okay. Scientific papers are essentially rapid communications. They're a condensed, "I did this!". Sometimes they're particularly well written and land in category A above. But I can't think of a single paper in my A column that I'd want a layman to read. None of them would make any sense to an "informed" layman.

My B column would probably have really good popular books written by experts--something like Quantum Computing Since Democritus, or, like others have said, introductory level textbooks.

Comment author: Capla 31 October 2014 02:43:27AM 2 points [-]

I acknowledge that they are separate questions.

I hope asking the wrong questions leads me to the right ones. Thank you.

Comment author: [deleted] 31 October 2014 10:33:06AM 1 point [-]

rapid

LOL.

Comment author: zslastman 01 November 2014 12:49:16PM 1 point [-]

"I didn't have time to write you a short letter, so I wrote you a long one" I think the rapid part is in terms of the writer's time, not the readers'.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 November 2014 12:31:20PM *  1 point [-]

I think the rapid part is in terms of the writer's time

Do you have an idea how long it takes to write and publish a paper in a peer-reviewed journal?

Comment author: [deleted] 08 November 2014 05:34:28PM 0 points [-]

I didn't mean the readers' time: probably in average it takes me less to read an academic paper than to read a Slate Star Codex post, at least if the latter is tagged as “long post is long”. :-)

Comment author: ChristianKl 01 November 2014 03:36:58PM 0 points [-]

In a world of publish or perish and a lot of articles getting rejected I don't thing the problem is that researchers don't invest enough time in writing papers. It's rather that there are incentives for writing in a way that signals sophistication.

Peer review also adds extra time for the communication process.