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Comment author: buybuydandavis 02 November 2014 09:54:38AM 0 points [-]

sometimes gmail will take five full minutes to load if I'm in my room.

On my 6 year old desktop, Gmail takes 5 seconds in chrome in my browser (which actually seemed kind of slow), and basically instantaneous on my nexus 5.

On my chrome book, it was a surprisingly horrible maybe 30 seconds on first load, and maybe 15 on subsequent loads. That is from the gmail link with chrome browser running, so it's bringing up the browser too.

So, gmail isn't the issue if you're waiting 5 minutes. Or maybe it's syncing all your email ever, and you have a lot more than I do? It's not my primary email.

The chrome web store has "gmail offline" which might be better for you? I find it annoying that it seems I always have to tell it whether or not to store email offline when I open it. But it opens quickly after that,

But it looks like the real trick for a chrome book is getting android apps to run. There are instructions on how to do this now. If you really need gmail, it might be worth it. In general, I think we'll have to just wait until Google works out android apps on chrome os.

But back to the overall point, I thought the issue was about information availability, and not really personal apps. Do you have a major information site that is a problem?

Comment author: Ritalin 02 November 2014 11:33:35AM 0 points [-]

I'm just reporting my own problems the way they happen.

But back to the overall point, I thought the issue was about information availability, and not really personal apps. Do you have a major information site that is a problem?

Pretty much any site that employs graphic ads or that is otherwise graphic-heavy; wikias, news sites, fora... even dictionaries like thesaurus.com, wordreference, or leo.org can be a pain to load. The little menus that appear when one is making a search are especially sensitive to network lag. Thankfully there are offline, command-based equivalents to several of these dictionaries, but you have to look for them.

Plus, personal apps are extremely useful tools. To give just one simple example, why spend phone credit on calling or SMS when you can What's App? I'm sure we could come up with several app ideas that would have excellent time-saving or resource-saving capacities... and, once they learn how to code, who knows what the local whiz kids might come up with?

Comment author: buybuydandavis 02 November 2014 10:20:51PM 1 point [-]

Are you running ad block? That might help with the graphic ad loads.

Again, I'd guess it's latency and not speed that's causing you problems with menus. Looks like interaction is the issue, not bulk data download. For general browsing, I don't know that you can do much about latency, but for particular apps. sites, if they've got an android app, you use it.

Seems like android apps are much better about all that stuff, and they'll be more generally available for chrome os soon, and I see some windows methods for this as well.

There are serious and well funded grownups working on this at Google.

Interesting to hear about the issues, though. You encouraged me to test out the chrome book I'm working on for my mother. Still slow by my standards, but I think it will be fine for her.