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Azathoth123 comments on November 2014 Media Thread - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Azathoth123 04 November 2014 02:35:29AM 5 points [-]

Explanations of how all women really want to be controlled by a strong man are window dressing

Then way are women so willing to throw themselves in front of abusive men?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 November 2014 08:22:19PM 4 points [-]

I think a lot of women believe that they are and/or should be able to improve abusive men.

Comment author: Azathoth123 05 November 2014 01:30:37AM 5 points [-]

Yes, and this belief appears to be sufficiently pervasive and impervious to evidence that its clear there is something more driving it.

Comment author: Lumifer 05 November 2014 02:03:25AM 6 points [-]

My reading of the situation is not that women prefer abusive men or prefer to be controlled. My reading is that women (warning: crude generalizations incoming) like to be/feel protected and prefer strong men. Given this, some women consider being abusive to be evidence of strength, and some women are willing to trade some control or some abuse for getting a strong man. This may or may not be a good trade, depending on the circumstances.

Comment author: MrMind 06 November 2014 08:42:21AM 0 points [-]

For what (little) I have read about abusive relationship, my pet theory is that abuses are like superstimulus for things like assertiveness, confidence, strength, etc.

Some women get imprinted with this kind of behaviour in such a way they are no more able to find attractive kinder men.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 November 2014 12:15:35PM 7 points [-]

Some women are willing to throw themselves in front of abusive men. It doesn't follow that all women really want to be controlled by a strong man.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 November 2014 10:39:07AM *  2 points [-]

Some women are. I don't have the feeling for what proportion of women are willing to have relationships with obviously abusive men.

The usual account of abusive relationships is that the abusive escalates fairly slowly-- I don't know whether the initially abusive relationship is too embarrassing to talk about.

Comment author: gjm 05 November 2014 11:06:43AM 2 points [-]

relationships with obviously abusive me.

I don't generally bother pointing out typos, but this one might be worth fixing.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 November 2014 12:25:11PM 1 point [-]

Thanks. Corrected.