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Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 07 November 2014 02:58:42PM 23 points [-]

Well, since that whole mind-killer business is already way over the horizon...

It can't be uncommon for people on here to look at their elected representatives and think "that doesn't seem like a very high bar to clear". It may be that I'm missing something, but the one elected official I personally know is, to put it bluntly, an uncharismatic tool with no relevant background. I wouldn't trust him as a stooge. Even if it was the safest seat in the country, it's bewildering to me that no-one else is there in his place.

Why don't more people like us (for some conception of "us" that may or may not be coherent) stand for public office? Here are some hypotheses:

  • They do, and I'm misinformed
  • STEM backgrounds are anti-correlated with public office because:
    • they have higher earning potential in the private sector
    • they systematically lack relevant skills, or the ability to recognise these skills
    • they are systematically located in large centres of industry, which attract more dedicated and competent competition in political spheres
  • They're too cynical to be politically active
  • There is a secret undercurrent of heavily politically-active people on Less Wrong who don't discuss it because of prevailing mind-killer social norms

Other suggestions (or counter-assertions, or gentle mockery) welcome.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 November 2014 12:27:23PM 1 point [-]

While all your reasons for STEM/rationalist types not to be in politics are very plausible reasons, I'm thinking I should become more politically active, alongside my fiancee. Anyone able to say what one should do in order to get into elected office?

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 09 November 2014 05:49:41PM *  3 points [-]

Become famous? I was once almost elected in municipal election, because I was a popular blogger. For greater fame, it helps to be a movie star, or other kind of a person that happens to be seen on TV.

In a country with multiple political parties, it helps to be there when the new party is born. If you read that someone started a new political party that sounds like something you would like, quickly go there, and socialize. They will be happy to have a new supporter, and you will become a member of the inner circle. And generally, be there where is a political debate, make connections, avoid making enemies (even on the opposing political side, because you never know when you may need them, and also being neutral-ish seems deeply wise), use people you know to know more people.

In other words, be a popular extravert, and then do some networking.

Comment author: [deleted] 10 November 2014 09:18:49AM 2 points [-]

be a popular extravert

Fuck! My greatest weakness!

Comment author: RichardKennaway 10 November 2014 01:22:06PM 2 points [-]

be a popular extravert

My greatest weakness!

Would finding a popular extravert you can get behind and getting to be a key member of their team be an alternative? Besides supporting them in a common cause, it would also be an opportunity to learn extraversion by example.

Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 10 November 2014 10:08:33AM 1 point [-]

I've had similar thoughts myself, (becoming more politically active, though not alongside your fiancée). Joining at least one political party seems like a good start.