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Comment author: Artaxerxes 17 November 2014 02:35:54PM *  2 points [-]

So kind of like an intellectual chuunibyou.

If we have strong views on an established field of study we've never directly engaged in, we should probably subject those views to scrutiny.

Sounds like a pretty good idea to me. You've listed some symptoms, I guess if you catch yourself engaging in such behaviour, there are potential solutions?

Avoid heterodoxy by reading opposing viewpoints while steelmanning as much as possible.

To avoid grandstanding via vocab, keep things simple. Make sure you can play taboo with words, or up goer five.

For rules and tips, make sure you're clear with yourself on when your rules don't apply as well as when they're useful.

But really, it is a hard one to notice in yourself, and a hard one to fix without actually becoming an expert.

Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 17 November 2014 04:05:07PM 3 points [-]

I have an ongoing project to read an introductory textbook for every subject I claim to be interested in. This won't make me an expert in those subjects, but it should hopefully stop me saying things that cause actual experts to facepalm.

Comment author: Username 18 November 2014 04:08:28AM *  2 points [-]

chuunibyou, heterodoxy, steelmanning, grandstanding via vocab

But really, it is a hard one to notice in yourself, and a hard one to fix without actually becoming an expert.

I present exhibit A.

(Meant lightly, but this really is a good example of phrasing that could be unnecessarily confusing to an average reader.)

Comment author: Artaxerxes 18 November 2014 04:21:00AM *  0 points [-]

I can see what you mean, but rephrasing what someone else has said is the opposite of using unnecessarily confusing phrasing, no? It's just good practice, and a big part of what the guide to words stuff was all about.

But you're right, I should probably put in a link for steelmanning, just in case.