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Comment author: [deleted] 19 November 2014 07:48:24AM *  3 points [-]

a) it's a relatively new memeplex, so if it's bad, someone has to do the work of swatting it down,

Really? Because most ideas are bad, and that by default includes most new ideas, so I don't see why a new "memeplex" shouldn't justify itself rather than having a right to be taken seriously.

I'd prefer the association be "Lesswrong is a place where neoreactionary ideas are discussed and sometimes criticized" than "Lesswrong is that place that sounds very similar to Neoreaction minus the explicit politics".

Out in the world, LessWrong is more closely associated with Peter Thiel's brand of libertarianism, and gets all the flak and critiquing usually given to techno-libertarianism.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 19 November 2014 08:17:35AM 2 points [-]

Because most ideas are bad, and that by default includes most new ideas, so I don't see why a new "memeplex" shouldn't justify itself rather than having a right to be taken seriously.

That horse has already left. Neoreaction is a thing now.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 November 2014 08:41:25AM 0 points [-]

Among a self-selected group of nerds on the internet, yes. Whenever it gets noticed by larger society, said society reacts (ahaha) with revulsion. This is both as it should be, and as the neoreactionaries predict, but the point is that I don't think it's going to grow beyond the usual demographics of nerd-focused extremist movements.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 19 November 2014 11:11:49AM 1 point [-]

Are "nerd-focused extremist movements" a thing? I can't think of any other examples.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 November 2014 12:17:46PM 4 points [-]

As a matter of fact, extremist movements often seem to target or arise-from the educated sections of the middle-class...

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 19 November 2014 01:21:39PM 3 points [-]

So... 'nerd' means 'educated middle class'?

And by this definition, haven't some movements grown beyond this demographic?

Comment author: David_Gerard 19 November 2014 02:30:45PM *  8 points [-]

They're a topic of much past discussion on LW, in fact.
* http://lesswrong.com/lw/18b/reason_as_memetic_immune_disorder/
* http://lesswrong.com/lw/cxg/link_nerds_are_nuts/
* http://lesswrong.com/lw/kat/the_benefits_of_closedmindedness/
* http://squid314.livejournal.com/350090.html

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