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Becuause that's not a definition, that's a description, and it builds into the situation a No-True-Scotsman situation into any dispute. It is therefore far more useful to keep distinct the self-identity of a movement and then state descriptively what the people who self-identify as such in practice act like.
Oookay then. Let's look at my post. Here it is in its entirety:
Oh! You said "it is therefore far more useful to keep distinct the self-identity of a movement" and here it is:
and then you said "and then state descriptively what the people who self-identify as such in practice act like" and here it is:
So, remind me again what are you complaining about?
The objection is the phrasing of social justice as a " framework of looking at the world as a fight against omnipresent oppression, mostly by white men of everyone else." I'm in agreement that to a large extent that isn't an inaccurate descriptor for much of passes for SJ. The mind-killing problem is to use that as the definition.
It's not a definition, it's an explanation in the context of someone asking "What does SJ mean?"