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Artaxerxes comments on xkcd on the AI box experiment - Less Wrong Discussion

15 Post author: FiftyTwo 21 November 2014 08:26AM

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Comment author: Artaxerxes 22 November 2014 01:22:00AM *  13 points [-]

Small update: Eliezer's response on reddit's r/xkcd plus child comments were deleted by mods.

Thread removed.

Rule 3 - Be nice. Do not post for the purpose of being intentionally inflammatory or antagonistic.

The XKCD made no mention of RW, and there is no reason to bring your personal vendetta against it into this subreddit.

I have also nuked most of the child comments for varying degrees of Rule 3 violations.

You can either look at Eliezer's reddit account or this pastebin to see what was deleted. Someone else probably has a better organised archive.

Comment author: philh 22 November 2014 02:54:51PM 6 points [-]

The main comment has been undeleted.

Comment author: V_V 23 November 2014 02:12:27PM *  19 points [-]

RationalWiki might have perhaps misrepresented Roko's basilisk, but in fairness I don't think that EY gets to complain that people learn about it from RationalWiki given that he has censored any discussion about it on LessWrong for years.

Comment author: ThisSpaceAvailable 26 November 2014 08:35:36AM *  2 points [-]

If A = RationalWiki might have perhaps misrepresented Roko's basilisk

B = I don't think that EY gets to complain that people learn about it from RationalWiki

C = he has censored any discussion about it on LessWrong for year

The literal denotation of your post is "A, but C -> B", but it seems to me that mentioning A in such close proximity to C -> B is a (perhaps unintentional) Dark Arts way of communicating C -> A.

Comment author: V_V 26 November 2014 10:48:51AM 2 points [-]

C => A might be also true to some extent, although it is hard to tell given that RationalWiki misrepresent lots of things even when good primary sources are available.

My point however was that even if EY might be epistemically right about A, C implies that he has no moral high ground to complain about people possibly misrepresenting the basilisk after learning about it from a biased secondary source.

Comment author: ThisSpaceAvailable 28 November 2014 06:44:53AM 0 points [-]

That something has a casual influence on something else doesn't mean that doing the first eliminates moral high ground to complain about the second.

Comment author: V_V 28 November 2014 08:03:09AM *  2 points [-]

EY bears part of the responsibility for people learning about the basilisk from RationalWiki, since due to his censorship, they can't (couldn't?) learn about it from LessWrong, where the primary source would have been available.

Comment author: Jiro 26 November 2014 04:38:19PM 3 points [-]

C does not lead to A, but C does lead to A', where A' is "many people get their information about the Basilisk from RationalWiki's misrepresentation of it" (Banning discussion leads to good information being removed, increasing the visibility of bad information.)

Comment author: TobyBartels 23 November 2014 11:49:28PM 2 points [-]

There is now an edited version that has been restored (along with much of the discussion).