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15 Post author: FiftyTwo 21 November 2014 08:26AM

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Comment author: V_V 23 November 2014 02:12:27PM *  19 points [-]

RationalWiki might have perhaps misrepresented Roko's basilisk, but in fairness I don't think that EY gets to complain that people learn about it from RationalWiki given that he has censored any discussion about it on LessWrong for years.

Comment author: ThisSpaceAvailable 26 November 2014 08:35:36AM *  2 points [-]

If A = RationalWiki might have perhaps misrepresented Roko's basilisk

B = I don't think that EY gets to complain that people learn about it from RationalWiki

C = he has censored any discussion about it on LessWrong for year

The literal denotation of your post is "A, but C -> B", but it seems to me that mentioning A in such close proximity to C -> B is a (perhaps unintentional) Dark Arts way of communicating C -> A.

Comment author: V_V 26 November 2014 10:48:51AM 2 points [-]

C => A might be also true to some extent, although it is hard to tell given that RationalWiki misrepresent lots of things even when good primary sources are available.

My point however was that even if EY might be epistemically right about A, C implies that he has no moral high ground to complain about people possibly misrepresenting the basilisk after learning about it from a biased secondary source.

Comment author: ThisSpaceAvailable 28 November 2014 06:44:53AM 0 points [-]

That something has a casual influence on something else doesn't mean that doing the first eliminates moral high ground to complain about the second.

Comment author: V_V 28 November 2014 08:03:09AM *  2 points [-]

EY bears part of the responsibility for people learning about the basilisk from RationalWiki, since due to his censorship, they can't (couldn't?) learn about it from LessWrong, where the primary source would have been available.

Comment author: Jiro 26 November 2014 04:38:19PM 3 points [-]

C does not lead to A, but C does lead to A', where A' is "many people get their information about the Basilisk from RationalWiki's misrepresentation of it" (Banning discussion leads to good information being removed, increasing the visibility of bad information.)