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Comment author: DataPacRat 24 November 2014 10:39:06AM 7 points [-]

What does your inner Quirrellmort tell you?

Has your internal model of the most competent person you can imagine ever given you an insight you wouldn't have thought of with more traditional methods?

Do you have more than one such useful sub-personality?

Does your main mode of thinking bring anything to the table that your useful mental models of others don't? If so, what?

Comment author: Sjcs 25 November 2014 10:51:22AM 2 points [-]

I unfortunately haven't developed a quirrellmort yet (the concept is on my to-do list though, along with a number of other personifications). I do have two loose internal models though, for very specific tasks.

The first is called "The Alien" or just "Alien". I created it in my mid-teens after reading the last samurai (not the movie), although my use of The Alien is not the same as the book's. The Alien is the voice in my head that says the pointlessly stupid or cruel things (generally about people) for no reason other than being able to. They aren't things I actually believe or feel, so I just tell The Alien to shut up. By doing this, I can create a divide between myself and these thoughts, not feel guilty about them occuring, and more quickly put them out of my mind.

The second I created very recently based off this thread. It is for the prevention of ego depletion when it comes to either starting big tasks or taking care of long lists of little tasks. Rather than think "Ok time to (make myself) do this" I defer the choice to an internal, slightly more rational model of myself that doesn't suffer from decision fatigue. The outcome is very predictable ("Do the goddarn task already"), but does seem to work very well for me. It's still quite new, and I probably don't use it as much as I should.

I have plans to make a number of other internal models to create an internal 'parliment' that can discuss and debate major decisions, or act on their own for specific required benefits. Other models that might be included include a cynic/pessimist (to help me be more pessimistic in my planning), an altruist (to consider if my actions are actually beneficial), a highly motivated being (to help renew my resolve), and some kind of quirrellmort. These are probably very liable to change as I try to implement them.

Comment author: MathiasZaman 24 November 2014 11:00:11AM 2 points [-]

He mostly tells me to kill annoying people.

Do you have more than one such useful sub-personality?

No, but I'm working on them. I've found my inner Hufflepuff to be particularly helpful in actually getting things done.

Incidentally, is there a name for the "sub-personality technique?"

Comment author: DataPacRat 24 November 2014 11:03:41AM 3 points [-]

Incidentally, is there a name for the "sub-personality technique?"

'Deliberately induced dissociative identity disorder'?

'Cultivation of tulpas'?

'Acting'?

Comment author: somnicule 24 November 2014 11:12:06AM 5 points [-]

Internal Family Systems is the analogous therapy technique, I think.

Comment author: SolveIt 24 November 2014 09:48:46PM 4 points [-]

What would Jesus do?

Comment author: RichardKennaway 24 November 2014 10:14:06PM 3 points [-]
Comment author: Vulture 25 November 2014 03:34:37AM 0 points [-]

Cultivation of tulpas

This already refers to a similar, but much dicier, technique.

Comment author: RowanE 24 November 2014 02:01:22PM -1 points [-]

I've often considered producing such a personality, after observing a previous LW discussion about tulpas, but never even got past the stage of which character to use - I don't know who the "most competent person I can imagine" would be.