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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 01 December 2014 08:27:06AM 2 points [-]

Short Online Texts Thread

Comment author: gwern 01 December 2014 04:48:04PM 12 points [-]

Technology:

Economics:

Philosophy:

Misc:

Comment author: gwern 01 December 2014 04:47:58PM 11 points [-]

Everything is heritable:

Politics/religion:

Statistics/AI/meta-science:

Psychology/biology:

Comment author: advancedatheist 04 December 2014 03:21:59PM 6 points [-]

Gerontologist Stephen Coles, M.D. Ph.D., went into cryo at Alcor, after going to a hospice nearby to "clock out," as Mike Perry says:

http://www.kurzweilai.net/tephen-coles-1941-2014

Comment author: bogus 04 December 2014 07:42:15PM 5 points [-]
Comment author: advancedatheist 01 December 2014 03:03:28PM 5 points [-]

An article about cryonics and Alcor which interviews Max More:

The Art of Not Dying

http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/the-art-of-not-dying-or-being-frozen-until-you-can-come-back

Wesley J. Smith, a conservative bioethicist, criticizes transhumanism as a new religious movement here:

http://www.nationalreview.com/human-exceptionalism/393646/give-me-new-time-transhumanism-wesley-j-smith

I suspect some of the resistance to transhumanism by conservatives, Objectivists and secular humanists derives from "Not Invented Here" thinking: The "wrong" sorts of people from outside their respective tribes came up with this idea, instead of the ones who already held high status in them. Ironically many of Alcor's early participants shared conservatives' belief in limited government, admired Ayn Rand's Objectivism and agreed with the basic principles of the philosophical materialism underlying secular humanism.

For example:

Many Are Cold But Few Are Frozen

http://www.cryocare.org/index.cgi?subdir=&url=humanist.html

How Ayn Rand Didn't Get Frozen

http://www.alcor.org/Library/html/HowAynRandDidntGetFrozen.html

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 01 December 2014 05:37:57PM *  2 points [-]

Astrophysics:

The failure of the standard model of cosmology by Pavel Kroupa - strong support for MOND physics and no dark matter.

Comment author: Vaniver 02 December 2014 06:27:02PM 4 points [-]

So, my impression from ~4 years ago was that SMOC was mediocre on ~3 different empirical tests, and competitors, like MOND, were great on one test but terrible on the other two, and this is why SMOC is the majority viewpoint. But that was years ago, and things may have changed significantly since then; are there any cosmologists in the audience who can comment on if progress in MOND has overcome any of the hurdles it faced before?

Comment author: MrMind 03 December 2014 08:09:30AM 1 point [-]

IIRC, the biggest problem for SMOC is the reheating after inflation, while MOND cosmology have trouble with everything else.

Comment author: advancedatheist 02 December 2014 03:11:16PM *  -2 points [-]

The PUA blogger Roosh Valizadeh explains his:

Cultural Collapse Theory: The 7 Steps That Lead To A Complete Culture Decline

http://www.returnofkings.com/49185/cultural-collapse-theory-the-7-steps-that-lead-to-a-complete-culture-decline

Apparently a French talkshow host has found readers for his similar analysis of the situation in France:

French Curtains

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/french-curtains_820204.html?nopager=1#

I find it fascinating that men who claim to have become skillful as PUA's, like Roosh, Heartiste and Vox Day, have come around to seeing the wisdom of patriarchal social conservatism. After exploring the dysfunctional world of female sexual freedom, they realize that our allegedly unenlightened forefathers had good reasons for keeping women under male authority.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 07 December 2014 11:58:06AM 5 points [-]

I find it fascinating that men who claim to have become skillful as PUA's, like Roosh, Heartiste and Vox Day, have come around to seeing the wisdom of patriarchal social conservatism.

I find it fascinating that you find this fascinating. Going from "women are mentally immature (as demonstrated by my ability to trivially manipulate them)" to "women should be treated like mentally immature" seems rather straightforward. I don't know about the other two, but Heartiste is extremely arrogant towards women, so it is no surprise that he has such opinion.

However, to prove the wisdom of patriarchy, it is not enough to prove that women are immature; you also have to prove that men are (more) mature. Where is this proof? The fact that Heartiste does not have similar stories about men is an evidence about his sexual orientation, not about wisdom of the average man.

Just to play devil's advocate, if women really are so trivial to manipulate, and yet most men can't realize it and instead suffer most of their lives, that would prove that most men are pretty stupid, too. Let's hypothesize that 90% of men and 90% of women are extremely stupid. How does this prove that keeping women under male authority is better (for the society in general) than e.g. a regime where feminists (of the strawman kind) would have all the power and make all the rules?

Comment author: Lumifer 02 December 2014 04:27:38PM *  6 points [-]

they realize that our allegedly unenlightened forefathers had good reasons for keeping women under male authority

Yeah, these reasons boil down to MOAR POWAH TO ME!

I mean, it's a blatantly obvious power play -- they just want to have the power and women to not have the power. It is a valid instrumental reason :-/ the only thing it doesn't have much to do with "wisdom" or what's usually called "good reasons".

Comment author: MrMind 03 December 2014 08:05:43AM 3 points [-]

I find it fascinating that men who claim to have become skillful as PUA's, like Roosh, Heartiste and Vox Day, have come around to seeing the wisdom of patriarchal social conservatism.

OTOH, men like Mark Manson (the former Entropy) have taken the exactly opposite route, so that's probably not significant.

Comment author: gjm 03 December 2014 01:07:04AM 3 points [-]

come around

Hasn't Ted Beale ("Vox Day") been an extreme patriarchal social conservative since for ever?

Comment author: MrMind 03 December 2014 08:06:00AM -2 points [-]

Neither Roosh, from the tone of his earlier "Bang X" guides, strikes me as particularly progressive.

Comment author: bogus 03 December 2014 12:34:01AM -1 points [-]

Roosh, Heartiste and Vox Day have come around to seeing the wisdom of patriarchal social conservatism.

These folks are not representative of pickup, though. Many people involved in pickup are quite apolitical, and others could even be described as left-wing, at least in a very broad sense drawing on Jonathan Haidt's work on moral foundations.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 01 December 2014 07:24:06PM 1 point [-]

Slate on killer robots.