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Lumifer comments on Open thread, Dec. 1 - Dec. 7, 2014 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ChristianKl 03 December 2014 02:25:41PM 0 points [-]

Overconfidence is a huge problem. Knowing that you don't understand how the world works is important. To the extend that people believe that they can learn significant things from history, "weak evidence" can often produce problems.

If you look at the Western Ukraine policy they didn't make a treaty to accept Russian annexion of the Krim in return for stability in the rest of Ukraine. That might have prevented the mess we have at the moment.

In general political decisions in cases like this should be made by doing scenario planning.

It on thing to say that Britian and France should have declared war on Germany earlier. It quite another thing to argue that the West should take military action against Russia.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 December 2014 06:01:39PM 1 point [-]

they didn't make a treaty to accept Russian annexion of the Krim in return for stability in the rest of Ukraine. That might have prevented the mess we have at the moment.

Accept an annexation in return for promises of stability? Hmm, reminds me of something...

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 December 2014 06:31:44PM 0 points [-]

That's partly the point, we didn't go that route and now have the mess we have at the moment.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 December 2014 06:51:41PM 1 point [-]

And what happened the last time we DID go that route?

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 December 2014 07:01:40PM *  0 points [-]

Making decisions because on a single data point is not good policy.

Also the alternative to the Munich agreements would have been to start WWII earlier. That might have had advantages but it would still have been very messy.