(nods) That said, "integral thinking" is difficult to apply consistently to thought-experimental systems as completely divorced from anything like my actual life as TvDS.

I find in practice that when I try, I mostly just end up ignoring the posited constraints of the thought-experimental system -- what is sometimes called "fighting the hypothetical" around here.

For example, when I try to apply "integral thinking" to TvDS to reject the unintuitive conclusion, I end up applying intuitions developed from life in a world with a conceivable number of humans, where my confidence that the suffering I induce will alleviate a greater amount of suffering elsewhere is pretty low, to a thought-experimental world with an inconceivable number of humans where my confidence is extremely high.