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Gurkenglas comments on Linked decisions an a "nice" solution for the Fermi paradox - Less Wrong Discussion

2 Post author: Beluga 07 December 2014 02:58PM

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Comment author: Gurkenglas 08 December 2014 04:25:44PM *  0 points [-]

If I am choosing the algorithm that all civilisations are going to follow, if one civilisation succeeded that would lead to large positive utilities for all future civilisations. Why would I let the game end?

Comment author: Beluga 08 December 2014 10:56:08PM 1 point [-]

Not sure I understand your question, but:

  • I assume that each civilization only cares about itself. So one civilization succeeding does not "lead to large positive utilities for all future civilisations", only for itself. If civilization A assigns positive or negative value to civilization B succeeding, the expected utility calculations become more complicated.
  • You cannot "let the game end". The fact that the game ends when one player receives R only represents the fact that each player knows that no previous player has received R (i.e., we arguably know that no civilization so far has successfully colonized space in our neighborhood).
Comment author: habeuscuppus 10 December 2014 09:57:10PM 0 points [-]

Wouldn't it be more accurate to state that R represents an enduring multi-system technological civilization and not mere colonial presence?

I don't think we can arguably claim that space in our stellar neighborhood has never been colonized, just that it does not appear to be currently