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TheAncientGeek comments on Does utilitarianism "require" extreme self sacrifice? If not why do people commonly say it does? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: SilentCal 15 December 2014 06:23:31PM 1 point [-]

Let me zoom out a bit to explain where I'm coming from.

I'm not fully satisfied with any metaethics, and I feel like I'm making a not-so-well-justified leap of faith to believe in any morality. Given that that's the case, I'd like to at least minimize the leap of faith. I'd rather have just a mysterious concept of preference than a mysterious concept of preference and a mysterious concept of obligation.

So my vision of the utilitarian project is essentially reductionist: to take the preference ranking as the only magical component*, and build the rest using that plus ordinary is-facts. So if we define 'obligations' as 'things we're willing to coerce you to do', we can decide whether X is an obligation by asking "Do we prefer a society that coerces X, or one that doesn't?"

*Or maybe even start with selfish preferences and then apply a contractarian argument to get the impartial utility function, or something.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 25 April 2015 10:49:51AM 0 points [-]

That's almost rule consequentialism.