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Comment author: ChristianKl 29 December 2014 05:42:13PM *  1 point [-]

You know how your finger feels when you get a paper cut? That's the kind of experience that I'm talking about.

Do you actually have experience with this experiment and what it feels like or does your information come from the paper?

Comment author: Gram_Stone 29 December 2014 05:59:15PM *  1 point [-]

I have not been subjected to the experiment. Even if I were, I would most likely not feel physical pain because only a small selection of subjects did. I do not believe that the terms 'pain' and 'anticipation of pain' are contestable or capable of being confused with empathy. I'm tapping out because I don't believe that this conversation is productive.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 December 2014 10:07:28PM 1 point [-]

While not having done this experiment in particular I do have experience in distinguishing a lot of the relevant qualia and what mimikry does for emotional transfer.

In a study they got 31/108 to feel pain when seeing images/clips.

The sensations they felt were most often described as “tingling”, followed by “aching”. Other descriptions included “sharp”, “shooting”, “throbbing”, “stabbing” and “tender”. The pain was described as lasting for “a few seconds”, “fleeting”, or “for a split second as soon as the picture appeared.”

That's a simple picture without any rapport building and more than the 20% in study you cited report feeling pain.

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