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Brian_Tomasik comments on Inverse relationship between belief in foom and years worked in commercial software - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Brian_Tomasik 08 January 2015 03:19:12AM 0 points [-]

Good question. :) I don't want to look up exact ages for everyone, but I would guess that this graph would look more like a teepee, since Yudkowsky, Musk, Bostrom, etc. would be shifted to the right somewhat but are still younger than the long-time software veterans.

Comment author: imuli 08 January 2015 08:31:53PM 2 points [-]

The subset that you can get birth years off the first page of a google search of their name (n=9), has a pretty clear correlation with younger people believing in harder takeoff. (I'll update if I get time to dig out other's birth years.)

Comment author: Brian_Tomasik 09 January 2015 02:30:00AM 1 point [-]

Cool. Another interesting question would be how the views of a single person change over time. This would help tease out whether it's a generational trend or a generic trend with getting older.

In my own case, I only switched to finding a soft takeoff pretty likely within the last year. The change happened as I read more sources outside LessWrong that made some compelling points. (Note that I still agree that work on AI risks may have somewhat more impact in hard-takeoff scenarios, so that hard takeoffs deserve more than their probability's fraction of attention.)

Comment author: imuli 13 January 2015 05:09:42PM *  4 points [-]

Birth Year vs Foom:

A bit less striking than the famous enough to have Google pop up their birth year subset (green).

Comment author: Brian_Tomasik 15 January 2015 03:12:51AM 1 point [-]

This is awesome! Thank you. :) I'd be glad to copy it into my piece if I have your permission. For now I've just linked to it.

Comment author: imuli 16 January 2015 04:43:04AM *  1 point [-]

Consider it to be public domain.

If you pull the image from it's current location and message me when you add more folks I might even update it. Or I can send you my data if you want to go for a more consistency.