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4 Post author: Manfred 14 January 2015 08:42AM

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Comment author: Leonhart 15 January 2015 09:42:57AM *  3 points [-]

I am confident that, in this experiment, my B-copy would push the button, my A-copy would walk away with 60 candies, and shortly thereafter, if allowed to confer, they would both have 30. And that this would happen with almost no angst.

I'm puzzled as to you why you think this is difficult. Are people being primed by fiction where they invariably struggle against their clones to create drama?

Comment author: Manfred 15 January 2015 03:52:01PM 1 point [-]

Hm, this points out to me that I could have made this post more stand-alone. The idea was that you eat the candy and experience a non-transferrable reward. But let me give an example of what I mean by selfish preferences.

If someone made a copy of me and said they could either take me hang-gliding, or take my copy, I'd prefer that I go hang-gliding. Selfishly :P

Comment author: Leonhart 15 January 2015 05:49:48PM 0 points [-]

Assuming we substitute something I actually want to do for hang-gliding...

("Not the most fun way to lose 1/116,000th of my measure, thanks!" say both copies, in stereo)

...and that I don't specifically want to avoid non-shared experiences, which I probably do...

("Why would we want to diverge faster, anyway?" say the copies, raising simultaneous eyebrows at Manfred)

...that's what coinflips are for!

(I take your point about non-transferability, but I claim that B-me would press the button even if it was impossible to share the profits.)

Comment author: Manfred 15 January 2015 08:59:30PM 0 points [-]

I think that's a totally okay preference structure to have (or to prefer with metapreferences or whatever).

Comment author: Leonhart 15 January 2015 09:46:35PM 0 points [-]

Delicious reinforcement! Thank you, friend.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 15 January 2015 04:51:24PM 0 points [-]

I'd throw dice and select based on outcome. Thereby everybody of both me's get half a hang-glide (on average).

But then I guess I'd work together with clones of myself well to. Quite well. Better than with most other people. Not everybody I know would. Some claimed they couldn't live together with another instance of themselves.