Then there would still be a hundred billion galaxies devoted to the maximization of pleasure. But we would have one galaxy within which to create wonderful civilizations that could last for billions of years and in which humans and nonhuman animals could survive and thrive, and have the opportunity to develop into beatific posthuman spirits.
I think this approach, which has been advocated before, is a massive help, especially when expanded to deal with different forms of CEV (what counts as a human? should utility functions be bounded? etc). When there are so many galaxies, it makes no sense to limit the AI to a single point of failure.
The problem comes if there are certain things which some moral systems believe to carry a negative moral weight. If one morality involved noble struggle, it could create more suffering than happiness, which would be inherently bad for a negative utilitarian. It seems there are certain moral systems which can't coexist, even in different galaxies.
I wonder how many people believe that all moral good stems from their religion? I imagine the 'extrapolated' bit might deal with this, the AI deciding 'no, you actually want happiness and an ingroup', but its not certain. If more than two different groups had utility functions assigning 1 to a person who believes in their religion and -1 to a person who doesn't, because they are going to burn in hell (1) then you end up with a situation where, even with all the resources in the universe, you can't get a positive result on the utility function without killing much of humanity.
I don't think this specific example would actually happen - people don't really believe in their religions that strongly - but I'd still be inclined to at least consider saying that people's utility functions can only apply to themselves, or can only apply negative weights to themselves, or can only apply to other people if the sign is the same as the sign that person applies to themselves. To give an example for the last proposition, you could care about me suffering iff I care about me suffering.
1) yes I know that not all religions believe this, but let's just run with it for the purposes of a thought experiment
This is part of a weekly reading group on Nick Bostrom's book, Superintelligence. For more information about the group, and an index of posts so far see the announcement post. For the schedule of future topics, see MIRI's reading guide.
Welcome. This week we discuss the twenty-fourth section in the reading guide: Morality models and "Do what I mean".
This post summarizes the section, and offers a few relevant notes, and ideas for further investigation. Some of my own thoughts and questions for discussion are in the comments.
There is no need to proceed in order through this post, or to look at everything. Feel free to jump straight to the discussion. Where applicable and I remember, page numbers indicate the rough part of the chapter that is most related (not necessarily that the chapter is being cited for the specific claim).
Reading: “Morality models” and “Do what I mean” from Chapter 13.
Summary
Another view
Olle Häggström again, on Bostrom's 'Milky Way Preserve':
Notes
1. Do What I Mean is originally a concept from computer systems, where the (more modest) idea is to have a system correct small input errors.
2. To the extent that people care about objective morality, it seems coherent extrapolated volition (CEV) or Christiano's proposal would lead the AI to care about objective morality, and thus look into what it is. Thus I doubt it is worth considering our commitments to morality first (as Bostrom does in this chapter, and as one might do before choosing whether to use a MR AI), if general methods for implementing our desires are on the table. This is close to what Bostrom is saying when he suggests we outsource the decision about which form of indirect normativity to use, and eventually winds up back at CEV. But it seems good to be explicit.
3. I'm not optimistic that behind every vague and ambiguous command, there is something specific that a person 'really means'. It seems more likely there is something they would in fact try to mean, if they thought about it a bunch more, but this is mostly defined by further facts about their brains, rather than the sentence and what they thought or felt as they said it. It seems at least misleading to call this 'what they meant'. Thus even when '—and do what I mean' is appended to other kinds of goals than generic CEV-style ones, I would expect the execution to look much like a generic investigation of human values, such as that implicit in CEV.
4. Alexander Kruel criticizes 'Do What I Mean' being important, because every part of what an AI does is designed to be what humans really want it to be, so it seems unlikely to him that AI would do exactly what humans want with respect to instrumental behaviors (e.g. be able to understand language, and use the internet and carry out sophisticated plans), but fail on humans' ultimate goals:
I disagree that it would be surprising for an AI to be very good at flying planes in general, but very bad at going to the right places in them. However it seems instructive to think about why this is.
In-depth investigations
If you are particularly interested in these topics, and want to do further research, these are a few plausible directions, some inspired by Luke Muehlhauser's list, which contains many suggestions related to parts of Superintelligence. These projects could be attempted at various levels of depth.
How to proceed
This has been a collection of notes on the chapter. The most important part of the reading group though is discussion, which is in the comments section. I pose some questions for you there, and I invite you to add your own. Please remember that this group contains a variety of levels of expertise: if a line of discussion seems too basic or too incomprehensible, look around for one that suits you better!
Next week, we will talk about other abstract features of an AI's reasoning that we might want to get right ahead of time, instead of leaving to the AI to fix. We will also discuss how well an AI would need to fulfill these criteria to be 'close enough'. To prepare, read “Component list” and “Getting close enough” from Chapter 13. The discussion will go live at 6pm Pacific time next Monday 2 March. Sign up to be notified here.