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mwengler comments on Superintelligence 23: Coherent extrapolated volition - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: mwengler 18 February 2015 01:47:54PM 1 point [-]

Could groups commit to CEV somehow, so that it could better prevent conflict?

I have a sense that this is what people who join the intelligence services do. The intelligence services lie both to keep secrets and to manipulate people into doing things they don't really want to do. The group of people in those services who believe in what they are doing believe they are doing right, that the things they are preserving are more valuable than the lesser values of telling the truth and not killing "innocent" people. Within the intelligence services it would appear conflict is largely avoided, with rare but spectacular exceptions like Snowden.

Indeed, this group value I am noticing would appear to apply to the police and the military. Anywhere where getting things done relies upon contravening the simple values of not using physical force against other people.

Is this the kind of thing you mean to be asking about?