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mwengler comments on Superintelligence 23: Coherent extrapolated volition - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: mwengler 18 February 2015 05:47:29PM 1 point [-]

I'm curious, do you actually think I am wrong or are you just arguing for sport?

I suppose it's a rhetorical question. It does seem obvious to me that the reason there are billions of Christians and Moslems and Jews is because any sect except the very least religious of them puts a high premium on "educating" their children to be if not the same thing at least a memetically closely related thing. And that this "education" involves threats about what will happen to you if you don't believe, threats that apply to you both in the afterlife they are telling you about, but threats which are quite real and physical in the world we all agree is real in much of the world.

When I say it seems obvious, I really mean that I have examined a tremendous amount of evidence, with a small amount of it seen by my own eyes and an overwhelming amount of it from reading about and talking about what actually happens in the world. So it is not a prior, it is post.

Do you seriously disagree that training of kids in the religion is not something that happens much? Or are do you object to my statements because you don't think raising a child to think it is more valuable to study Torah than to study Physics is morally inferior to raising your child to believe that they can gather evidence, and that thousands of years old texts that make unbelievable claims should no more be believed than should brand new texts that make unbelievable claims?

Comment author: ChristianKl 18 February 2015 09:27:05PM 1 point [-]

Do you seriously disagree that training of kids in the religion is not something that happens much?

That's not what my post is about. My post is about whether or not all atheists think that religious people are less moral than atheists.

In the world in which I live Jewish people make efforts to stop atheists from sending their children to Jewish kindergardens in which those children would be exposed to a bit of Torah study.

I see nothing wrong with reading the Grimm Tales to children or the Torah.