There isn't a clear distinction, but CEV is exactly what the Amish have done. They took the values they had in the 18th century, tried to figure out what the minimal, essential values behind them were, and then developed a system for using those core values to extrapolate the Amish position on new developments, like electricity, the telephone, gasoline engines, the Internet, etc. It isn't a simple rejection of new things; they have an eclectic selection of new things that may be used in certain ways or for certain purposes.
This is an interesting clarification of your early point, but I don't see how this is a response to what I said.
For one thing, you're ignoring the 'if we were smarter, thought clearer' part since of course the Amish can't do that since they're human.
But really, you just gave one negative example. Okay, being Amish is not growing up. What is growing up, and why would we predictably not value it while also finding it proper to object to its being not valued?
This is part of a weekly reading group on Nick Bostrom's book, Superintelligence. For more information about the group, and an index of posts so far see the announcement post. For the schedule of future topics, see MIRI's reading guide.
Welcome. This week we discuss the twenty-third section in the reading guide: Coherent extrapolated volition.
This post summarizes the section, and offers a few relevant notes, and ideas for further investigation. Some of my own thoughts and questions for discussion are in the comments.
There is no need to proceed in order through this post, or to look at everything. Feel free to jump straight to the discussion. Where applicable and I remember, page numbers indicate the rough part of the chapter that is most related (not necessarily that the chapter is being cited for the specific claim).
Reading: “The need for...” and “Coherent extrapolated volition” from Chapter 13
Summary
Another view
Part of Olle Häggström's extended review of Superintelligence expresses a common concern—that human values can't be faithfully turned into anything coherent:
Notes
1. While we are on the topic of critiques, here is a better list:
In-depth investigations
If you are particularly interested in these topics, and want to do further research, these are a few plausible directions, some inspired by Luke Muehlhauser's list, which contains many suggestions related to parts of Superintelligence. These projects could be attempted at various levels of depth.
If you are interested in anything like this, you might want to mention it in the comments, and see whether other people have useful thoughts.
How to proceed
This has been a collection of notes on the chapter. The most important part of the reading group though is discussion, which is in the comments section. I pose some questions for you there, and I invite you to add your own. Please remember that this group contains a variety of levels of expertise: if a line of discussion seems too basic or too incomprehensible, look around for one that suits you better!
Next week, we will talk about more ideas for giving an AI desirable values. To prepare, read “Morality models” and “Do what I mean” from Chapter 13. The discussion will go live at 6pm Pacific time next Monday 23 February. Sign up to be notified here.