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skeptical_lurker comments on A Basic Problem of Ethics: Panpsychism? - Less Wrong Discussion

-4 Post author: capybaralet 27 January 2015 06:27AM

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Comment author: skeptical_lurker 27 January 2015 07:50:24AM *  2 points [-]

Suppose all information processing is inextricably linked to qualia. Now I suppose there is information processing in rocks of a form, in the equations of themodynamics, motion etc that govern the rocks behaviour. But qualia does not imply self-awareness (1), and there's no way you can communicate with the rock. Qualia also doesn't imply emotions (2), and if there is neither self-awareness nor emotions then I don't see why there need be any moral considerations.

As to determining the truth of Panpsychism and categorising which things have emotions, self awareness etc, I shall defer this problem to future superintelligences. Additionally, a CEV AI should devote a lot of resources to humans regardless of whether panpsychism is true, because most people don't believe in Peter Singer style altruism.

1 because (a) people who meditate for many years or take a large does of dissociative drugs can experience ego-death, where they stop conceptualising a self, but they still experience qualia. (b) most animals are not self-aware, yet intuitions and occam's razor tell me that they still experience qualia

2 some people experience emotional blunting, but while the world may seem grey emotionally, yet they still experience qualia. Additionally, squid do not have emotions, and again I believe they still have qualia.

EDIT: as well as lacking self-awareness and emotions, rocks also lack agency. The question of what to do with a human, who due to various incurable diseases, lacks self-awareness, emotions and agency is left as an excersize for the reader.

Comment author: capybaralet 28 January 2015 04:43:33AM 0 points [-]

How do you know what a CEV AI should do?

How do you know that squids don't have emotions?

Define agency.

You could have at least stepped up to the challenge you left to the reader.