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Gunnar_Zarncke comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, January 2015, chapter 103 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: skeptical_lurker 30 January 2015 01:50:48PM 1 point [-]

I'd agree - I doubt Carrow is a Horocrux, but the repeated mentions of him might indicate that he has some further role to play, possible involving dark rituals. But the joint probability (Carrow will appear) and (his role will involve dark rituals) and (dark ritual is a Horocrux) is quite low.

Also, IIRC there are 7 Horocruxes in cannon. In HPMOR, it is hinted that we have one for each greek element (magma, ocean trench, stratosphere and buried underground) and one in space. Presumably, Harry is one and Quirrel is one. So all Horocruxes are accounted for.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 30 January 2015 03:07:11PM 2 points [-]

Joint probabilities don't work that way if you have a designed story line. Esp. by this author.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 30 January 2015 06:07:58PM *  4 points [-]

I'm sorry I don't understand. Even when discussing a work of fiction, the probability that 'Carrow has conducted a dark ritual which makes him a Horocrux' has to be strictly lower than the probability that 'Carrow has a further part to play'.

Probability doen't stop working in certain fields, its universal.

Comment author: Alsadius 01 February 2015 03:35:38AM 2 points [-]

Strictly lower, yes. "Quite low" was what you said, and that part can be disputed based on a read of the author.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 01 February 2015 12:13:20PM 0 points [-]

Sure, if you think you have a really good read of the author. But as I said, all Horocruxes are accounted for, and as gjm said, there is a simpler explanation, and so I'm sticking by my opinion that Carrow probably isn't a Horocrux, even if he does show up later.

Comment author: Desrtopa 01 February 2015 06:17:52AM 0 points [-]

That sounds a lot more like a Rowling type twist than an Eliezer type twist. There are elements that could be interpreted as vague and oblique hints, but it doesn't suggest particularly clever or well-considered behavior on anyone's part.