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Comment author: G0W51 01 February 2015 02:27:54AM *  0 points [-]

In order to create an accurate model of psychology, which is needed to show the beliefs are wrong, you need to accept the very axioms I'm disagreeing with. You also need to accept them in order to show that not accepting them is a bad idea.

I don't see any way to justify anything that isn't either based on unfounded premises or circular reasoning. After all, I can respond to any argument, no matter how convincing, and say, "Everything you said makes sense, but I have no reason to believe my reasoning's trustworthy, so I'll ignore what you say." My question really does seem to have no answer.

I question how important justifying the axioms is, though. Even though I don't believe any of the axioms are justified, I'm still acting as if I did believe them.

Comment author: dxu 01 February 2015 06:13:27AM 0 points [-]

You keep on using the word "justified". I don't think you realize that when discussing axioms, this just plain doesn't make sense. Axioms are, by definition, unjustifiable. Requesting justification for a set of axioms makes about as much sense as asking what the color of the number 3 is. It just doesn't work that way.

Comment author: G0W51 01 February 2015 05:55:02PM 0 points [-]

I used incorrect terminology. I should have asked why I should have axioms.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 01 February 2015 03:00:51PM 0 points [-]

It may be unacceptable to ask for justification of axioms, but that does not make it acceptable to assume axioms without justification.

Comment author: dxu 01 February 2015 05:41:34PM 0 points [-]

In what meaningful sense are those two phrasings different?