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In a previous thread, I brought up the subject of entropy being subjective and got a lot of interesting responses. One point of contention was that if you know the positions and velocities of all the molecules in a hot cup of tea, then its temperature is actually at absolute zero (!). I realized that the explanation of this in usual terms is a bit clumsy and awkward. I'm thinking maybe if this could be explained in terms of reversible operations on strings of bits (abstracting away from molecules and any solid physical grounding), it might be easier to precisely see why this is the case. In other words, I'm looking for a dynamical systems interpretation of this idea. I googled a bit but couldn't find any accessible material on this. There's a book about dynamical systems approaches to thermodynamics but it's extremely heavy and does not seem to have been reviewed in any detail so I'm not even sure of the validity of the arguments. Anyone know of any accessible materials on ideas like this?
I'm pretty sure Manfred is right. You drop a block of ice of unknown configuration into a cup of tea of known configuration, then your uncertainty about the system will grow over time. Of course entropy != temperature. You coudl say that the tea has zero entropy, but not zero temperature.
But what's the point of this thought exercise?
The block of ice is not of unknown configuration. The block of ice in my example is at 0 K, which means it has zero entropy (all molecules rigidly locked in a regular periodic lattice) and thus its configuration is completely known.