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Comment author: [deleted] 09 February 2015 03:11:12PM 0 points [-]

Even the real person in this situation can lie, can't he?

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 09 February 2015 04:23:20PM 1 point [-]

The AI could simply point out that 0 and 1 are not probabilities, and now by lying you've given the AI the intellectual high ground.

Comment author: Dorikka 10 February 2015 04:45:16AM 0 points [-]

Yes, but the gatekeeper may be acting several levels deep in a roleplay (roleplaying a character roleplaying another character roleplaying...etc) to pass the time and avoid emitting evidence that might allow the AI to pinpoint his preferences. The currently active character may have one of a rather large number of responses to this besides actually being more mentally pliable as a result of a loss of face (or may not even view the dialogue as a loss of face.)

It amuses me that publishing this comment will make it more challenging to implement this strategy if I elect to play as Gatekeeper again at some point in the future.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 February 2015 04:30:35PM 0 points [-]

Well, to nitpick I am certain that I exist (cogito) with P(1).

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 09 February 2015 07:21:08PM 1 point [-]

Well, my confidence that I exist exceeds my confidence that probability makes sense.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 February 2015 04:28:03PM 0 points [-]

If the gatekeeper really believed that he would just shut off the machine.