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shminux comments on We live in an unbreakable simulation: a mathematical proof. - Less Wrong Discussion

-31 Post author: shminux 09 February 2015 04:01AM

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Comment author: shminux 12 February 2015 04:12:11PM 0 points [-]

Right, a good question. I did not mean a simulation of something, rather "let's set up some rules and see what happens". In the same sense that the Conway's Game of Life is a simulation of life. And yes, to those inside it is reality. And to those outside it is a small subset of reality. And my original point was that those inside can potentially infer that there must be something outside by hitting the limit of what they can explain. But they have no hope of breaking out. This last argument, of course, relies on the tenuous assumption of the physical laws being mathematical structures and every event in the world being, in essence, a theorem.

Comment author: mwengler 12 February 2015 11:34:12PM 0 points [-]

Cool enough.

Am I correct that you suggest an infinite regress, or rather progress? That every higher level is also a rule-following game set up as a subset of a (presumably) yet more complex level above it? And that there is no end to this progression, no top level?

Comment author: shminux 13 February 2015 12:02:09AM 0 points [-]

I did not mean to suggest it when I started writing the original post, but the logic, flawed as it is, seems to be pointing that way.