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Comment author: Thecommexokid 12 February 2015 06:59:10AM *  4 points [-]

I have an exercise in "thinking about the problem for 5 minutes before proposing solutions" for everyone.

I am a member of a small group of physics graduate students in charge of a monthly series of public science lectures. The lectures are aimed at local high school students, and we have many high school teachers who encourage their students to attend by offering extra credit. The audience of each talk (typically around 100) is composed almost wholly of students who have come solely because they want a few extra points in chemistry or whatever.

In the current system, we prepare attendance sheets with school and teacher names on the top, and at the conclusion of the lecture, the students who want credit for attending come to the front of the hall and sign their name to the appropriate sheet to prove they were there. Then we photocopy these sheets for our records and mail the originals back to the teachers.

There are a number of issues with this system:

  • Students often don't pay attention to the top of the sheets (where the school and teacher are listed) and write their names on the wrong list.
  • Students who arrive to the lecture very late still receive credit for attending.
  • Unless watched very closely, students can sign the names of friends who did not attend in addition to their own name.
  • Even if watched very closely, they can still do this if they are clever enough to do one name at a time and then loop back around to the end of the line.
  • If many students from a single teacher's classes all attend, there is a huge pile-up at the end around a single sheet.

I am looking to design a new process to eliminate some of these issues. I have something particular in mind (which fixes most of these problems but generates a couple new ones) but I'd like to see what other people have to say.

Comment author: ChristianKl 12 February 2015 01:11:40PM 2 points [-]

I think an optimal system is resources are no issue is to have an app that allows the teacher to ask every student in attendance questions.

It creates makes the teaching process more interactive and it also requires attendance.

Comment author: Thecommexokid 12 February 2015 05:58:21PM 0 points [-]

I think an optimal system if resources are no issue

What resources would be required for this?

an app

On what platform? As I commented on another reply, many of our student attendees come from poor districts so I don't want to assume every student has a smartphone.

Comment author: ChristianKl 13 February 2015 12:28:31PM 0 points [-]

The cheapest android phone I can find seems to be sold for 32.17$ (Rs. 1,999) in India (http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/jivi-launches-cheapest-android-based-smartphone-in-india-at-rs-1999-594264).

On what platform?

Likely Android and IOS.

Comment author: Lumifer 13 February 2015 03:53:28PM 1 point [-]

The cheapest android phone I can find

The cheapest android phone you can find is used, a few years old, and your neighbour is selling it for 5 euros...

Comment author: ChristianKl 13 February 2015 04:52:57PM 0 points [-]

The cheapest android phone you can find is used, a few years old, and your neighbour is selling it for 5 euros...

I wouldn't know where to buy 100 phones for 5€ each.

Comment author: gjm 13 February 2015 01:51:29PM 0 points [-]

The Amazon reviews suggest that it's a really terrible phone.

(It's also worth noting that in many cases most of the cost of owning a smartphone isn't in the nominal price of the device but in what you pay for network service. If you buy that smartphone, how much more do you have to pay to make it actually connect to the internet?)

Comment author: ChristianKl 13 February 2015 04:08:48PM 1 point [-]

If you buy that smartphone, how much more do you have to pay to make it actually connect to the internet?)

I think most universities do have WLan in which devices can login.

The Amazon reviews suggest that it's a really terrible phone.

On Amazon.com there LG Realm for 40$ and Kyocera Event for 30$. The LG Realm has 4.4 out of 5 stars average on Amazon.

Comment author: Lumifer 13 February 2015 03:54:33PM 1 point [-]

Unless you treat that smartphone as not a phone, but a tiny computer. Wi-Fi is free, usually.