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hairyfigment comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 104 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: hairyfigment 16 February 2015 05:45:59AM 0 points [-]

I still consider it unlikely that Voldemort is keeping Harry alive just to get the Stone. But perhaps he thinks a more altruistic desire for the Stone will allow someone to find it when the Dark Lord could not? Would that suggest Tom Riddle was originally more altruistic?

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 16 February 2015 08:52:54AM 4 points [-]

The mirror shows what you want, so the idea is a "good" person like canon Harry would see themselves finding the stone (which allows them to actually find the stone), whereas a "bad" person would see themselves drinking elixir of youth or making gold. Harry would presumable see himself providing everyone with elixir of youth, which means that he would not see himself finding the stone, which means he could not find the stone.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 16 February 2015 07:29:03PM 1 point [-]

I still consider it unlikely that Voldemort is keeping Harry alive just to get the Stone.

I thought the canon was that the mirror would only give the stone to someone who didn't want to use it. Doesn't Harry want to use it more and more often than anyone else?

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 17 February 2015 03:03:11AM 1 point [-]

Voldemort knows that it requires a desire, but he doesn't know what the required desire is.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 16 February 2015 06:27:26AM 0 points [-]

I would imagine a wide range of intrinsic altruistic natures allow one to get it out of the mirror when your true motivation is to bring back your dead friend.