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Comment author: [deleted] 16 February 2015 05:31:26PM *  0 points [-]

I can give you 100 pairs of colors that you couldn't distinguish from each other that go from red to blue. There no point where you would be able to draw a clear boundary where redness stops and blue begins.

This is true, but it doesn't change the fact that I am experiencing colors when I look at them. Why is there "redness" or "blueness" to begin with?

The same way you can train new phoneme distinctions you can train new color distinctions. Interestingly naming the colors helps with the ability to develop a new perceived color.

But being able to distinguish between colors or sounds isn't the problem I'm trying to address. The problem for me is, why do colors have metadata associated with them while sound does not?

Comment author: arundelo 16 February 2015 07:33:29PM 0 points [-]

why do colors have metadata associated with them while sound does not?

What about (for example) "low" and "high"? ("What if low pitches sound to you the way high pitches sound to me, and vice versa?")

Comment author: [deleted] 16 February 2015 07:47:30PM 0 points [-]

Hmmm. That could be true. But it still doesn't feel like there are qualia associated with sound in that way; for low pitches you can actually hear the individual vibrations, so to me it doesn't seem like it's possible for you to be hearing what I hear as a high note. The true nature of the sound is apparent at such low pitches, and it's as if there's nowhere for qualia to be hiding.

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