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Comment author: ChristianKl 19 February 2015 01:58:20PM 3 points [-]

German hippies tried to be as unmasculine in everything, hair, clothes, as they could.

That depends a lot of how you define unmasculine hair. German hippies male did make choices such as wearing beards.

Comment author: eternal_neophyte 20 February 2015 04:07:54AM *  1 point [-]

"That depends a lot of how you define unmasculine hair" It depends on how they defined it, or more narrowly on how they thought others defined it. You can't rebel against a norm if you don't believe it to be a norm held by other people, but you can rebel against it even if you don't think it should even be a norm (why else would you rebel?). So in a sense, perhaps the hippies weren't trying to be unmanly, but "unmanly".

Comment author: ChristianKl 20 February 2015 10:56:28AM 2 points [-]

I'm not the old that I can tell from my own experience but as far as I can tell few people in Germany would have said that they were rebelling against manliness (Männlichkeit) but rather authority or inequality.