You're looking at Less Wrong's discussion board. This includes all posts, including those that haven't been promoted to the front page yet. For more information, see About Less Wrong.

Lumifer comments on Money threshold Trigger Action Patterns - Less Wrong Discussion

17 Post author: Neotenic 20 February 2015 04:56AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (44)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: Lumifer 20 February 2015 09:24:00PM 4 points [-]

as for the concept of ownership in general, it almost never makes sense unless you love both the concept of owning something and the thing you own.

I disagree. I think that ownership provides a number of significant benefits not all of which can be straightforwardly converted to money. One benefit, for example, is control over your property and the associated freedom to do with it what you want. Another benefit is reduction of risk in uncertain and turbulent times.

Comment author: gwern 20 February 2015 11:53:17PM 4 points [-]

Another benefit is reduction of risk in uncertain and turbulent times.

Ownership of which things reduces risk, though? If you own a fishing boat, now you're vulnerable to additional risk (damage to your boat, the constant threat of big expensive repairs - 'a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into'), and you no longer have the resources you have spent on ownership of it up front rather than renting a bit at a time; those were resources that could have been a cushion against risk. If you spend $20k on a fishing boat & all its many expenses, you're now down $20k and up on risk; if you keep your $20k, well, $20k buys a lot of protection.

Comment author: Lumifer 23 February 2015 06:15:06PM 1 point [-]

A valid point. Ownership is not an unmitigated blessing :-D and there are certainly trade-offs in play.

I am not saying "you should always own if you can", I'm just objecting to shminux' "almost never makes sense" -- I think it makes sense considerably more frequently than "almost never".