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DanArmak comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 108 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Subbak 21 February 2015 12:36:18AM 1 point [-]

The Dark Lady's heart was captured, and they became lovers. And then one night (...) they lay together in the fashion of a >man and a woman. But Perenelle had been a virgin until that night.

I get what is meant, but if they had been lovers for some time then I would say that Perenelle was not a virgin in any meaningful sense of the word. Of course, from an old-fashioned point of view she might have been, but this sentence is not accompanied by a modifier expressing the change in values as the next one is.

Comment author: DanArmak 21 February 2015 03:48:29PM 3 points [-]

Romeo and Juliet, the Star-Crossed Lovers (so called by Shakespeare), never had sex. So the words were used as Quirrel describes, six centuries ago.

Comment author: TobyBartels 23 February 2015 08:49:53AM 3 points [-]

They have sex before Act III Scene 5.