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Vulture comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 108 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Vulture 21 February 2015 09:55:05PM 7 points [-]

This makes some sense, but if Quirrell could bamboozle the map, surely he wouldn't do so in such a way as to reveal vitally important and damaging secrets to his enemies.

Comment author: Astazha 22 February 2015 01:51:12AM 0 points [-]

I can't figure out what you mean by "reveal vitally important and damaging secrets to his enemies." Would you expand on that please?

Comment author: [deleted] 22 February 2015 02:24:19AM 4 points [-]

Quirrell and Harry both show up on the map as "Tom M. Riddle". Is there any reason why Baba Quirrell would want that to happen?

Comment author: Astazha 22 February 2015 04:04:11AM 2 points [-]

I'm not sure what is gained by convincing Harry that he is Riddle, whether it is true or not, but Quirrel communicated that before the map came into play so it is clear that s/he wants Harry to believe that Harry is Riddle. Quirrel is also acknowledging that he is Voldemort, so them both showing up on the map as Riddle is confirmation of what has already been said rather than new information.

I thought maybe you were talking about the scribbles over the mirror room, but I don't know what to make of that at all so I can't even attempt to interpret it though the "Quirrel is or is co-habited by Baba Yaga" lens.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 February 2015 03:52:55AM 1 point [-]

Scribbles over the mirror room? I'm asking why Baba Quirrellmort would want himself and Harry to show up as "Tom M. Riddle" on the map. (Which reveals to anyone who has the map that Q = V and H = V, which reveals the horcrux thing...)

Comment author: jkaufman 23 February 2015 04:12:24PM 1 point [-]

The map may not have shown that at other times. Dumbledore didn't remark on it when he asked "find Tom Riddle". ("Harry? You're Tom Riddle? WTF?) All we know is that the map currently says they're both Riddle.

Comment author: Astazha 23 February 2015 07:43:00PM 0 points [-]

It wouldn't have always said that, it would have been changed right there in the moment for Harry's benefit. I don't know why, but again the map isn't providing new information, it's confirming what Quirrel already said.