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Astazha comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 108 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Astazha 22 February 2015 06:36:47PM 5 points [-]

In this case, Baba Yaga's signature, and signatures from every student and teacher of Hogwarts, were placed within an ancient device known as the Goblet of Fire. Baba Yaga swore not to shed a drop of students' blood, nor take from the students anything that was theirs. In return, the students swore not to shed a drop of Baba Yaga's blood, nor take from her anything that was hers. So they all signed, with the Goblet of Fire to witness it and punish the transgressor."

Tom Riddle was not a student when Baba Yaga taught, and would not have been part of that pact.

Comment author: ChristianKl 22 February 2015 07:02:27PM 1 point [-]

I'm not sure that matters. The Goblet might be open for contracts that cover the student body together.

It seems like a brilliant plan to prevent anyone from stealing your stone from the perspective of Baba Yaga wanting to turn a good wizard. It seems like a brilliant plan to lay a trap for Voldemort that way.

There simply enough narrativium that I would expect the story to go down that road.

Comment author: falenas108 22 February 2015 09:00:44PM 0 points [-]

It was specifically said that every student and teacher individually signed the contract, so unless that's a lie this is probably not what will happen.

Comment author: ChristianKl 22 February 2015 10:05:31PM 0 points [-]

The paragraph that speaks about the deal contains the sentence:

But she was not trusted, and so there was invoked a curse. Some curses are easier to cast when they bind yourself and others alike; Slytherin's Parselmouth curse is an example of such.

There's no statement that only the people who signed are binded.

Comment author: Izeinwinter 22 February 2015 06:47:26PM -1 points [-]

Neither were the DADA teachers, and it didn't save them. It should be noted here that Draco and company probably can pick it up safely, because they would be intending to deliver it to BY, which wouldn't count as a taking. Don't think Harry can.

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