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Izeinwinter comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 109 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Izeinwinter 23 February 2015 10:50:53PM 22 points [-]

Dumbledore isn't in the mirror. Harry and Voldemort are. The trap triggered, stuck them in a time-dilated mirror plane. Which is, of course, the only reasonable way to deal with an immortal serial killer. This even counts as fulfilling the darn prophecy, doesn't it? Definitely if Dumbledore can extract Harry, because that way naught but a remnant will exist in the same world, and yes, it does count as Harry defeating him. He talked him into stepping into that trap, after all. Bravo.

Comment author: Transfuturist 24 February 2015 12:44:14AM 17 points [-]

This would be amazing. The last chapters could be the HPMoR version of the AI Box experiment, where Quirrell is an Unfriendly Optimizer, Harry is a Questionably Friendly Optimizer, and Dumbledore is trying to get Harry out.

Perhaps Eliezer might finally reveal his secrets...?

Probably not. But that problem would be such a neat way to end the series. Quirrell could pull tricks, and we'd see a no-holds-barred speed chess match between Quirrell, Harry, and Dumbledore.

Comment author: solipsist 24 February 2015 12:39:17AM *  9 points [-]

Oh dear. Harry's in there, Hermione's body is in there, Quirrell has the Philosopher's stone, and he can hum! I hope the protagonists are good gatekeepers...

Comment author: Astazha 23 February 2015 11:15:22PM *  5 points [-]

I love this. Bravo to you as well!

ETA:

And in the same instant the Mirror changed, no longer showing Harry the reflection of the room, showing instead the form of the real Albus Dumbledore, as though he were standing just behind the Mirror and visible through it.

Now I'm sure you're right.

Comment author: somervta 23 February 2015 11:30:29PM 3 points [-]

sure?

how sure are you, and how much do you have to bet?

Comment author: Astazha 24 February 2015 12:03:37AM 1 point [-]

Betting isn't my thing. I know it's popular among many here, but I'm just on the forums to discuss HPMOR with other fans.

There are other possibilities, like Harry is seeing what he desires, but I have to propose some pretty awkward complications to make that work. I think Izeinwinter is very likely correct.

Comment author: Macaulay 24 February 2015 05:02:52AM 0 points [-]

When Harry first entered the room wearing his cloak, he looked into the mirror and saw only the reflection. Now he is again looking into the mirror while cloaked.

Comment author: Nornagest 23 February 2015 11:21:18PM 4 points [-]

This is totally cheating, but if that were the case, I don't think there would be 11 chapters' worth of plot left.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 24 February 2015 07:25:10AM 0 points [-]

There's also many other plot strings that need to be tied up.

Comment author: Ander 24 February 2015 12:21:34AM 0 points [-]

I think there could definitely be a few chapters of resolving the mirror plot followed by a few chapters of wrapping everything up.

Comment author: Macaulay 24 February 2015 04:56:28AM 3 points [-]

Dumbledore is in the mirror. Quirrell, from 104:

I saw the Headmaster missing... but for all my magic can tell me... he could be in another... realm of existence

Comment author: levantis 24 February 2015 04:20:32AM 1 point [-]

What if it's the dying confunded ego of Dumbledore desired to be alive the most, summoning real Dumbledore?

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