Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 110

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This is a new thread to discuss Eliezer Yudkowsky’s Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality and anything related to it. This thread is intended for discussing chapter 110.

There is a site dedicated to the story at hpmor.com, which is now the place to go to find the authors notes and all sorts of other goodies. AdeleneDawner has kept an archive of Author’s Notes. (This goes up to the notes for chapter 76, and is now not updating. The authors notes from chapter 77 onwards are on hpmor.com.)

Spoiler Warning: this thread is full of spoilers. With few exceptions, spoilers for MOR and canon are fair game to post, without warning or rot13. More specifically:

You do not need to rot13 anything about HP:MoR or the original Harry Potter series unless you are posting insider information from Eliezer Yudkowsky which is not supposed to be publicly available (which includes public statements by Eliezer that have been retracted).

If there is evidence for X in MOR and/or canon then it’s fine to post about X without rot13, even if you also have heard privately from Eliezer that X is true. But you should not post that “Eliezer said X is true” unless you use rot13.

This is a new thread to discuss Eliezer Yudkowsky’s Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality and anything related to it. This thread is intended for discussing chapter 110.

Spoiler Warning: this thread is full of spoilers. With few exceptions, spoilers for MOR and canon are fair game to post, without warning or rot13. More specifically:

You do not need to rot13 anything about HP:MoR or the original Harry Potter series unless you are posting insider information from Eliezer Yudkowsky which is not supposed to be publicly available (which includes public statements by Eliezer that have been retracted).

If there is evidence for X in MOR and/or canon then it’s fine to post about X without rot13, even if you also have heard privately from Eliezer that X is true. But you should not post that “Eliezer said X is true” unless you use rot13.

The Mirror in canon isn't limited to the viewer's knowledge (cf. the appearances of Harry's extended family); it's unlikely that the HPMOR version has been given that limitation, so fulfilling that limitation is not a strong indicator. Moreover, Quirrellmort's CEV probably is not to defeat Dumbledore, so the Mirror should not show it. I think odds are high that this was the real Dumbledore, and that he has been, not killed, but cast out of the time stream. Removed from game, if you will.

The Mirror in canon isn't limited to the viewer's knowledge (cf. the appearances of Harry's extended family);

No? Should we assume he has never seen pictures of his family, after being raised by his mother's sister?

Quirrellmort's CEV probably is not to defeat Dumbledore

Maybe. That your entire CEV could be shown in a mirror seemed rather unlikely, but since he is already immortal, defeating Dumbledore has got to be pretty close to the top of the list for Quirrell.

I was actually really interested in seeing just what EY would show as Q's CEV.