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49 Post author: ThePrussian 26 February 2015 10:36AM

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Comment author: James_Miller 26 February 2015 02:25:35PM *  2 points [-]

Evil, defined as taking pleasure in someone else's unwanted pain, exists. And if we pretend it doesn't and look for other motives when evil was the driving force we get a mismatch between map and territory.

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Good/Love = My utility goes up as other peoples' utility increases. Evil/Hate = My utility goes up as other peoples' utility decreases.

As I tell my intermediate microeconomics students, only economists really understand love.

Comment author: Lumifer 26 February 2015 04:54:51PM 2 points [-]

Evil, defined as taking pleasure in someone else's unwanted pain, exists

That might be a passable definition for personal evil, but it doesn't look adequate for institutional evil.